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Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby whiskeytango » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:42 pm

Let me be frank, I love Wolverine. I know that he's not really that interested as a character, but he was the first comic book hero I really got into, so he'll always hold a special place in my heart.

I was thinking lately how Wolverine is portrayed as far as his strength goes, and I feel that its a little misrepresented. Taking into effect that pretty much every one, even normal humans, are far stronger in comic books than your average real human is, Wolverines attacks should be far more devastating than they are shown to be. The guy has been walking around with an extra 100 pounds of metal inside of him for years, it would be like lifting weights anytime you do anything. Since muscle is built by tearing from exertion and then restructuring, with his healing factor his muscle mass would have grown epically in his first couple of days of having the adamantium inside of him alone, not even taking into account the decades he's carried it. To be able to move with the speed and agility that he is shown doing he would have to be immensely strong, I mean like Captain America strong at least, which he's never really been shown to be.

I realize that writers giving Wolverine an upgrade now would probably result in backlash from fans who are getting tired of seeing him in nearly every book, I just think its weird that he's been portrayed as weaker than he should really be for so long.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby leafman343 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:21 am

I think the problem is that, while his muscles have adapted to lifting and moving the weight of his adamantium skeleton unlike normal weight lifting he never puts the weight down. If wolvie had the adamantium removed, his strength would appear to increase because he no longer has the weights on.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby whiskeytango » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:39 am

I can't remember, did that happen when Magneto pulled it out of him? I know he got more feral, but I don't remember if his strength increased or anything like that.

I guess what I meant was that in order to move with the speed that he does with the extra weight, he'd have to be exerting an insane amount of strength that would still transfer through a strike.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby leafman343 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:50 am

Right, the weight of the adamantium plus the strength needed to swing it around in a punch should be dealing some pretty hefty blows. In that case, I think the writers forgot to do their homework :lol:
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby bobtheodd » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:24 am

My friend is a big Wolve fan. He said when he made his first appearance his strength was on par with Spiderman. Don't know if that is true or not. As far as writers are concerned, they don't have a clue. The original X-men lost their souls in Inferno, can't be seen by machines or photographed, but I've seen comics where they do.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby Punstarr » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:32 am

That wasn't Inferno... that was the Siege Perilous at the end of the Fall of the Mutants storyline. It wasn't that they lost their souls, it was that the Siege Perilous allowed them to be reborn, and the spell cast by Roma kept them from being detected by technology... something that the writers eventually just stopped paying attention to.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby bobtheodd » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:46 pm

Punstarr wrote:That wasn't Inferno... that was the Siege Perilous at the end of the Fall of the Mutants storyline. It wasn't that they lost their souls, it was that the Siege Perilous allowed them to be reborn, and the spell cast by Roma kept them from being detected by technology... something that the writers eventually just stopped paying attention to.

My bad. I'm not a comic reader. I got a lot of info from friends, who are comic readers, must of mixed up my info.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby Wesr » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:57 pm

Nearly every comic book over 30 years old has lost its soul and is barely cannon since nobody bothers to do their homework. Which is dumb as half these things are on digital media you can get easily. i got 30 years of xmen for 15.00, it doesn't have complete crossovers though which is lame, but its not like it takes much to look these up. I mean look when Chris Clairemont came back to xmen after all that time, they'd ruined all the stuff he set up years before and he couldn't get the support to reset things to the way he'd envisioned them. Marvel seems to ahve a whore of the month mentality when it comes to artists adn writers.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby Punstarr » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:08 pm

bobtheodd wrote:
Punstarr wrote:That wasn't Inferno... that was the Siege Perilous at the end of the Fall of the Mutants storyline. It wasn't that they lost their souls, it was that the Siege Perilous allowed them to be reborn, and the spell cast by Roma kept them from being detected by technology... something that the writers eventually just stopped paying attention to.

My bad. I'm not a comic reader. I got a lot of info from friends, who are comic readers, must of mixed up my info.


No worries man. I'm too much of a Marvel Geek for my own good hehe.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby Punstarr » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:10 pm

sephiroth wrote:Nearly every comic book over 30 years old has lost its soul and is barely cannon since nobody bothers to do their homework. Which is dumb as half these things are on digital media you can get easily. i got 30 years of xmen for 15.00, it doesn't have complete crossovers though which is lame, but its not like it takes much to look these up. I mean look when Chris Clairemont came back to xmen after all that time, they'd ruined all the stuff he set up years before and he couldn't get the support to reset things to the way he'd envisioned them. Marvel seems to ahve a whore of the month mentality when it comes to artists adn writers.


When Claremont came back to Marvel, he was very disappointing to me. He even bashed on Jubilee as a character in an interview and -he- created her!
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby Green Skin » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:03 pm

Punstarr wrote:
sephiroth wrote:Nearly every comic book over 30 years old has lost its soul and is barely cannon since nobody bothers to do their homework. Which is dumb as half these things are on digital media you can get easily. i got 30 years of xmen for 15.00, it doesn't have complete crossovers though which is lame, but its not like it takes much to look these up. I mean look when Chris Clairemont came back to xmen after all that time, they'd ruined all the stuff he set up years before and he couldn't get the support to reset things to the way he'd envisioned them. Marvel seems to ahve a whore of the month mentality when it comes to artists adn writers.


When Claremont came back to Marvel, he was very disappointing to me. He even bashed on Jubilee as a character in an interview and -he- created her!


Understandable though. If you take Shadowcat, change her power set, and give her a little sass then you basically have Jubilee.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby BurchCustoms » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:26 pm

according to the official handbook of the marvel universe, wolverine can lift between 800 and 2000 pounds. seems pretty strong to me.
i haven't seen him use the high end of that often, but honestly, i don't lift at my max often, i doubt many people do.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby BurchCustoms » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:06 pm

and by the way, captain america (rogers) is listed at 800 lbs and down
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby Punstarr » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:14 pm

BurchCustoms wrote:and by the way, captain america (rogers) is listed at 800 lbs and down


Wolverine is straight up not as strong as Cap. There's no way. Wolverine may be a mutant but his powers have absolutely nothing to do with his strength. Sure, he's going to be stronger than the average guy due to the Adamantium bonded to his bones, but that is not going to push him past the maximum level a human being can possibly achieve, which is where Cap stands. Mind you, the world's lifting record-holder is probably not as strong as Cap is. Cap's super power is that he is physically perfect. No one in the history of mankind has ever been physically perfect... Cap's abilities are beyond anything any man or woman has ever achieved in real life. Think about that.

The 800 lb cap for Cap is outdated and never held water in my opinion even in the 80s and Wolverine being able to lift a ton is straight up ridiculous imho.
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Re: Wolverines strength is under rated

Postby Wesr » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:23 am

Marvel isn't exactlly doing their best at keeping with the stuff they wrote before. I bet you look at stuff in the 70s and half of the facts show that they've somehow cooked the books on what characters can do now.
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