mrjayberry wrote:The Walking Dead isn't the best example either since we're already talking about a small sample size but go ahead and list what characters you'd want from either source of the Walking Dead. How many women are in the top ten, top twenty? Michonne is the only female in my top ten and I might add comic Andrea or Maggie (but only if it was a two pack with Glen) to the top twenty and sure if I collected this line I would eventually love some lady zombies to round out my horde. This I think relates to how terrible woman can be written, especially the Walking Dead t.v. show none of the female characters have been likeable to me.
mrjayberry wrote:Some things to consider, most toy lines are loosely based around a theme. Take G.I. Joe, military right. What is the percentage of females in the United States Army? Then take into account that they are like a special ops unit so only the very best get invited it's not so strange that the number of females on the Joe team is almost nil. That said I would like to see them add another couple of ladies to the ranks, I can't name a single female from the Joe line past Scarlett, Lady Jaye, and the Baroness. Also I think there was a female Drednock wasn't there? I'd love to see a G.I. Joe that gives a nod and a wink to say some of Pam Griers characters from the 70s. We need some name recognition women.
CB2001 wrote:mrjayberry wrote:However, there are some properties that have a lot of female characters, but I don't know how many of them make the jump over into figure form. All the Star Trek shows and movies are one example. Star Wars is another one. But can it be said depending on pre-existing properties, they also have a barring on the figures produced. Farscape is one I can think of. When ToyVault produced the line, which was around Season 2, the only primary female characters for the show were Aeryn Sun, Zhaan and Chiana (thus they were produced as figures), but the ratio of the primary female characters to primary male characters are still smaller, because there were more primary male characters on the show (such as John Crichton, Rygel, D'argo, Pilot, Crais and Scorpius, with all but Pilot being produced).
mrjayberry wrote:I would have to believe every female I would recognize from Star Trek or ST:TNG is represented in plastic form. Keep in mind I'm a very casual fan. So there might be some glaring omissions to you I'm not seeing it and I can't imagine there is a Stars Wars character with a line in any of the movies who doesn't have a figure yet. Also keep in mind most lines don't last a long enough to enrich the line up with females. If you get a line into it's second or third year you'll often times see female figures sneaking in there.
The best way to make your argument would, I think, be through the comic lines. I love Marvel, I collect Marvel Universe. So where they certainly do a better job than say G.I. Joe (although they have a much larger pool of options) it still seems like not enough. You can ask why was Sue Storm the last member of the FF to be made? You can ask why when dealing with the X-Men it's not a more even split, aren't X-Women as popular as the guys? You can ask if you go to say comics should be good and look at their list of top 100 Marvel characters and start at one and move backwards you start hitting the females with no figures first? The top 3 who don't have a MU figure yet Emma Frost, Beast, and Rogue,and I assume they don't want to spend the money molding a Beast.
mrjayberry wrote:I'm starting to see the fundmental differences in our arguments, your arguing for a close to 50/50 split (if possible with a large enough pool of characters), I feel that females should be more represented but closer to 30/70 split. So Marvel Universe I want one or two females in every wave five or six figure wave not three and three.
Why would a ST:TNG toy line be 50/50? There are seven or eight (if you count Wil Wheaton) main cast members two are women so if only a quarter of the main cast is female why would half of the toys be female. Especially when you rerelease popular characters over and over sorry if Picard in a zoot suit sells better than background or guest stars.
I think the most successful Star Trek line was Playmates right, feel free somebody to correct me if I'm wrong. Look at the number of female figures that where released for that line its not 50/50 probably wasn't even 30/7 but it was a lot. The first year you got almost nothing but there are couple of the later years had what I consider an acceptable ratio of female figures. Like I said sure there are females on the show who they didn't make figures of but all the main cast members male and female got made and probably most of the more important secondary cast members. Which female character do you want a character of that playmates didn't make?
The only lines I ask why on are the ones missing a key figure, say the Willow line why didn't I get a Sorsha figure, or Iron Man where is my unreleased Scarlett Jo Black Widow but I don't think they should start throwing in figures just to be fair.
mrjayberry wrote:Wow, I just found out the Willow line did have a Sorscha figure, I don't think I'd ever seen a picture of her until yesterday. So that is another toy line I have no beef with when it comes to female figures.
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