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Postby Darththomas » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:31 am

I HATE Final Fantasy 8 :evil: . Having said that it's all my own fault why I hate it and not the games.

Back then I was somewhat of a teenage tearaway and of course I had my PS1 chipped [-X . I got a copy of FF8 and was loving it, I played it and played it, and played it some more. I was great at the card game and had most of the characters well and truly levelled up, I just finished the third disc when disaster struck........ my copied fourth disc did not work :o . So first I tried buying another copy, still didn't work so I finally gave in and bought an official copy to my horror the save game wasn't compatible with the official version so I'd put in all those hours for nothing. I couldn't bear to do the whole thing again so my love affair with FF ended right there :( .

The moral of the story.........Piracy is a crime and Karma will get you one way or the other.

I didn't play any then till 10 - 2 with all the girls, that was pretty good but I cheated to get all the characters levelled up. Final Fantasy 13 is just a disgrace IMO, I wanna think a strategy through I don't wanna Paradigm shift, what was wrong with the way it was. I feel like I've maybe written this before but it's here again now.

As for SuckerPunch, it certainly looks real nice and the mix of styles was great to see but the story was a wee bit lame for me.
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby HeartBreakKid » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:10 am

cosmicfantasycustoms wrote:
Therapist wrote::lol: I warn you Yamivash is now your worst enemy. He told his GF just a few days ago sucker punch was one of his most hated movies of all time. I thought is was absurdly dissapointing cuz I REALLY wanted to like it but it just had sooooo many flaws to me and I am a huuuuge alice in wonderland fan. But yeah there are tons of different ways to play pokemon these days :lol: I play yugioh :lol:

I find gameboy to have tons of amazing RPGs the Lunar series are freaking great! I have had a blast playing



I will find a way to make it up or we will have another movie we dislike or like and it may balance the situation, what does he think of inception? I can understand why some would dislike it, but I understand baby doll and her situation and I just so happen to like emily browning. As for alice in wonderland love the book. wow, it blows my mind about the figurines. yugioh had some cool creatures, from what I remember.

I agree about the gameboy, that is how I picked up a lot of games I could not get for a system otherwise. Never played Lunar.


Sucker Punch wasn't for me I rank it as being just as bad as the Tekken Live action movie maybe worse...
Tekken had Bryan Fury .All Sucker Punch had was a strange attempted pretentiousness . It was smut it was just
terrible "oh yeah I have a sexually abusive step father who sends me to the funny farm what will be my strong
persona to kick a$$ and get free...A matrix Trinity esk outfit? Maybe like Bad@$$ commando type thing like
Sarah Connor,Or Ripley from alien... Naaaah Imma dress like a Halloween sexy school girl" I'm gunna Call BS on
that . Id have no issue with some of it if not for the attempted pretentiousness "No this is so much deeper
than an Alice in Wonderland rip off but Hmmm maybe toss in the expendables in and a dollar bin porno" mix
them together and you get a spiraled mess that crashes and doesn't even go out in a bang more of a fizzle
and pop. Hmm Wait! maybe its not an Alice in Wonderland wannabe ,yet a tribute to Lewis Carroll himself and
that's why it seemed to share the purpose of his Jabberwocky poem ,to show you how NOT to do something.
Also nothing against you AT ALL what's not to understand about absurdly shallow characters.
Bella Swan is a deeper character than the entire cast of SuckerPunch .I honestly wanted to like it because I'm
good friends with a girl that body doubles for Emily Browning ,If you read my past post I mention her her
names Kate!but Sheesh !!! wanna watch something truly awesome watch Blood and Roses ,
Seen that and was like dang they just don't make them like they used to!

~Okay Rant over~


Back on Topic My Favorite RPG's are the Kingdom Hearts series Those games make me so happy! I likey the happy :mrgreen:
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby cosmicfantasycustoms » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:39 pm

I respect your thoughts and understand them, personally I would like to have seen the characters protrayed more in a real woman aspect and respect rather than sexist objects. but what I really understand about the movie is I have been through mental and physical abuse and can empathize with her struggle about wanting to fight or give up and blaming yourself for the loss of someone. it is something you struggle with everyday and anyone who will sacrifice all for someone else is truly honorable. but you have great and valid points, women are women and should be treated as such and not possessions, objects or other degrading figures. I find it awesome you know her double, she is probably very awesome at stunts and acting. I am unfamiliar with the movie you speak of, but will look it up. I love a varying degree of movies and sucker punch is only in a large list of others.

I have not played kingdom hearts, but will one day play the games, heard a lot of great things.
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby zeldaman33 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:38 am

I know that the legend of zelda is consider a action aventure game but its really the best RPG ever!!!!!
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby Kairu » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:41 am

I'm actually surprised someone didnt mention Xenogears for PS1... Awesome combat style, mech and human combat, and a very complex story. Definetely one of my all time faves, as well as Symphony of the Night.

And while some may not consider it an RPG, the Way of the Samurai series, espescially the third entry with the sword building extras. While the story to them wasnt anything spectacular, it gave you choices and you learned your moves as you went on, which went towards the moves you could apply to your custmozed sword later.
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby HulkSmashedMe=( » Wed May 23, 2012 8:32 pm

Phantasy Star 4. My personal favorite traditional RPG ever. Traveling among planets, great story, intersting characters, great fight sequences, and perfect pace so you didn't feel left behind of unprepared.

More modern times, Elder Scrolls kind of share top billing with Fallout, both Bethesda products. Oblivion was monumental, by Skyrim seemingly surpassed it. Fallout 3 should be considered legendary in the realm of the original Legend of Zelda being innovative, taking traditional RPG elements and applying it to the fallout after an apocalypse-like war.

Does Pokemon count? Big fan of pokemon from red and blue to now black and white.

Xenosaga, Shenmue, Chrono Trigger, Shining Force 1 & 2, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Super Robot Taisen, Final Fantasy (but only up to 7 like CFC said), and Super Mario RPG, really fun games.
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby cosmicfantasycustoms » Thu May 24, 2012 12:27 am

HulkSmashedMe=( wrote:Phantasy Star 4. My personal favorite traditional RPG ever. Traveling among planets, great story, intersting characters, great fight sequences, and perfect pace so you didn't feel left behind of unprepared.

More modern times, Elder Scrolls kind of share top billing with Fallout, both Bethesda products. Oblivion was monumental, by Skyrim seemingly surpassed it. Fallout 3 should be considered legendary in the realm of the original Legend of Zelda being innovative, taking traditional RPG elements and applying it to the fallout after an apocalypse-like war.

Does Pokemon count? Big fan of pokemon from red and blue to now black and white.

Xenosaga, Shenmue, Chrono Trigger, Shining Force 1 & 2, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Super Robot Taisen, Final Fantasy (but only up to 7 like CFC said), and Super Mario RPG, really fun games.



really great list.
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby therapist » Thu May 24, 2012 1:48 am

cosmicfantasycustoms wrote:
HulkSmashedMe=( wrote:Phantasy Star 4. My personal favorite traditional RPG ever. Traveling among planets, great story, intersting characters, great fight sequences, and perfect pace so you didn't feel left behind of unprepared.

More modern times, Elder Scrolls kind of share top billing with Fallout, both Bethesda products. Oblivion was monumental, by Skyrim seemingly surpassed it. Fallout 3 should be considered legendary in the realm of the original Legend of Zelda being innovative, taking traditional RPG elements and applying it to the fallout after an apocalypse-like war.

Does Pokemon count? Big fan of pokemon from red and blue to now black and white.

Xenosaga, Shenmue, Chrono Trigger, Shining Force 1 & 2, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Super Robot Taisen, Final Fantasy (but only up to 7 like CFC said), and Super Mario RPG, really fun games.



really great list.


Agreed! this is someone who knows their RPGs!
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby Darththomas » Thu May 24, 2012 6:52 am

Really diggin Skyrim at the mo, I didn't think they could better Oblivion but guess what, they did this game is immense and two hours play seems like 2 minutes.
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby HulkSmashedMe=( » Fri May 25, 2012 2:39 pm

cosmicfantasycustoms wrote:love the thread, great topic.
as for my favorites all of the legend of zelda games, not played skyward sword yet and my least favorite is zelda II adventure of link. I do have to say it was one of the more challenging games, where you had more sword play options. and who didn't hate thunderbird?

valkyrie profile, this game is right up there with LoZ and that is something. I can not believe no one mentioned this game. I had always played more FF type games and this one was so amazingly good. I have not played the sequel or other versions, but hope to play the sequel one day.

of course chrono trigger, game absolutely blew me away. on all levels one of the finest like LoZ.

final fantasty I only go up to 7 and really only played the american versions 1, 2 and 3. really great games and fun to play.

phantasy star 1-4, even though 3 is not as great as the others. it is a cool option to have muliple stories and options throughout the game.

breath of fire games were great, the second was a lot better IMO.

dragon warrior were also very fun, but never got around to playing any of them after the second, should have though. always an entertaining.

always liked playing x-men legends 2 and marvel ultimate alliance, they were fun. maybe a bit simplistic, but liked being able to power up the characters choose your team and it not completely be a button masher.

not played but want to play shining force games and elder scrolls skyrim, heard great things about them. also maybe the knights of the old republic rpg and the dc online game.


did not get the chance to dragon warrior or x-men legends, will try them!
every other game on this list, PHENOMENAL!
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby HulkSmashedMe=( » Fri May 25, 2012 2:40 pm

BurningDoom wrote:A Look at the Top RPGs Through the Generations

RPGs, consistantly the genre with the most in-depth, story driven, and character driven games out there. Usually the games we as gamers spend the most time absorbed in, as well. Let it be known for anyone reading this (if anyone is), I AM NOT A FINAL FANTASY FAN! I think it is the most overrated RPG series of all-time that caters to the trendy emo crowd. That said, here is my top RPG experiences in my lifetime of gaming:

The Legend of Zelda (NES)
The original Zelda game for the good ole Nintendo. Recover the Triforce, battle monsters, gain treasures, and explore dungeons in the land of Hyrule.

Crystalis (NES)
Many called this masterpiece of action-RPGing a Zelda clone due to the top-down 2D gaming style. If it truly was, then it was the superior game. It had better graphics, better sound, an actual in-game story, a level-up system, and different areas complete with their own dungeons, overmap, and towns to explore.

The Battle of Olympus (NES)
A side-scrolling, action-RPG set within ancient Greek mythology. You set out on a quest to save your true love from the hands of a dark lord, and by defeating him you also save all of Greece. Integrates mythology, monsters, and Greek Gods superbly. A great challenge for fans of the genre.

Dragon Warrior IV (NES)
The best Dragon Warrior entry on the NES and the best old-school, turn-based RPG on the NES. This game had a very in-depth story for it's time and was very character driven for the time. Best graphics and sounds of the Dragon Warrior games on the NES as well.

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES)
The greatest 2D Zelda adventure of all-time! Battle Gannon across the lands of Hyrule and the despairs of the Dark World.

Actraiser (SNES)
A very unique entry on the SNES. It combined action-RPG elements with SimCity-type builder elements and even a little bit of spaceship-shooter thrown in. I had a blast playing through this, and the little action-levels in-between a pretty challenging! You play God (literally) over a brand-new planet and fend off the planet's "demons" and create cities and lands for the people.

Chrono Trigger (SNES)
A great RPG that centers around time-travel! The sci-fi story and different locations through time that you play through are what makes this game such as blast. It uses the basic turn-based battle system used for more RPGs of this era.

Breath of Fire II (SNES)
One of the best old-school, turn-based RPGs ever! Great graphics, interesting characters, awesome storyline, and a pinch of SimCity in it make for an incredible RPG!

The Legend of Legaia (PS1)
A unique RPG from Sony Computer Entertainment. Has your basic story of young boy sets out on a quest to save the world from certain destruction, with it's own twists here and there. But what makes this entry really stand out is it's battle system which uses different combinations of buttons to use different attacks. It's also unique in the fact that it uses a very different style of 3D graphics that most RPGs at the time weren't using, but rather action games and platformers of the time were using that style of 3D graphics.

Diablo (PC/PS1)
This game was the first RPG I truly got addicted to. There was just so many demons to kill, and weapons & armor to find! Hack-and-Slash your way through the levels of hell fighting hordes of demons, uncovering treasure, armor, and weapons, and fighting various demon-lords until you fight Diablo himself in the final level of Hell!

King's Field II (PS1)
I also thoroughly enjoyed the original and KF: The Ancient City. But KF II is my favorite entry into this unique RPG series. A fully 360 degree, first-person view, 3D world with real-time action-RPG gameplay. Tons of enemies, locations, spells, armor, weapons, and oh so many secrets to find! A high emphasis on exploration in this game.

Baldur's Gate: Dark Allaince (PS2/XBox)
Same gameplay style as Diablo but set in a medieval fantasy world rather than hell. Everything is bigger. Better graphics, better sound, more locations, more enemies., and longer game.

Neverwinter Nights (PC)
The next step above Baldur's Gate: Dark Allaince. This is hack-and-slash RPG perfection! Using D&D rules, incredible sounds and graphics, huge areas and so many different areas to explore, so many items, spells, weapons, side-quests, NPCs, enemies, it's just insane! The first time you play it you get totally absorbed into Neverwinter Nights until it's all over.

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PC/XBOX 360/PS3)
Single-player action-RPG perfection! This game is absolutely gorgeous to look at. It takes place in free-roaming, open-ended world that massive beyond belief! There are tons of towns, castles, dungeons, sprawling wilderness, and even a Hell Dimension to explore. So many choices, quests, guilds, storylines, and even an Arena to compete in. If you are an RPG fan at all, pick this game up! I also really enjoyed Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind when it came out, but Oblivion is simply superior in every conceivable way.

Agree? Disagree? Got your own list? Post it.

-Nate-


Awesome list, Nate. Haven't played all of these games, but I tell you what, I will give them a chance now. Great descriptions of love this thread!
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby HulkSmashedMe=( » Fri May 25, 2012 2:43 pm

MrBlu wrote:Fallout 3 was dope,hands down my favorite RPG ever.


Agreed. I still play it every now and then. Great story, great setting, great ability to customize your character, from perks to weapons, it really blended well with what kind of player you are. and the decision making process and consequences were terrific. I love how your actions affect the world. GREAT GAME!
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby HulkSmashedMe=( » Fri May 25, 2012 2:47 pm

Therapist wrote:
cosmicfantasycustoms wrote:
HulkSmashedMe=( wrote:Phantasy Star 4. My personal favorite traditional RPG ever. Traveling among planets, great story, intersting characters, great fight sequences, and perfect pace so you didn't feel left behind of unprepared.

More modern times, Elder Scrolls kind of share top billing with Fallout, both Bethesda products. Oblivion was monumental, by Skyrim seemingly surpassed it. Fallout 3 should be considered legendary in the realm of the original Legend of Zelda being innovative, taking traditional RPG elements and applying it to the fallout after an apocalypse-like war.

Does Pokemon count? Big fan of pokemon from red and blue to now black and white.

Xenosaga, Shenmue, Chrono Trigger, Shining Force 1 & 2, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Super Robot Taisen, Final Fantasy (but only up to 7 like CFC said), and Super Mario RPG, really fun games.



really great list.


Agreed! this is someone who knows their RPGs!


The both of you have really great taste in games. This thread overall has really great taste in games. Honestly, some games I've never heard of, and some I've heard of and never played. Time to bring out the old systems and go hunting local flea markets and garage sales!
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby cosmicfantasycustoms » Fri May 25, 2012 3:05 pm

thanks buds, I really love this thread, has me wanting to try a few others. shining force games, vagrant story, valkyrie profile 2 and the diablo games.
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Re: The Best RPGs Through The Ages

Postby Xem » Sat May 26, 2012 11:40 am

Although I've played a lot of great RPGs, there are a few that stand out to me as memorable, and in some ways timeless, despite aging graphics and.. other technical difficulties.

Planescape: Torment would easily top my list. It's easily one of the most involved RPGs I've ever played. The interaction between characters was extremely intricate and well written. It was always interesting to explore the new dialog options and get to know each character, rather than picking them based purely on their skill. A lot of people are turned off by the vast amounts of reading that you do, but I found it more appealing than off-putting. The dialog, even with minor NPCs was almost always interesting, and often times bizarre and macabre.
The grim, dark nature of the game was really unique. Aside from Diablo, there weren't really a whole lot of games that carried such a dark story, and while Diablo was fun, it wasn't exactly notable for its in-depth writing and plot. The world itself had a bizarre feeling to it. It wasn't a generic fantasy setting, but more relative to more abstract concepts, like something you might read about in a Lovecraft story.
The graphics at the time were pretty amazing, and even today they still look nice. It played in a very similar manner to Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and other related titles, though the camera was a lot closer to the action. I remember the game being pretty buggy upon launch, which to me was its only downfall, but I'm sure it has been patched since then.

..also, who doesn't love a game that allows you to purchase an item such as "baby oil", which according to its description, is made from the tears of a mewling mortal baby?


Diablo was one of the first computer games I ever played. I was immediately addicted, and as a child it got me so pumped up that I ended up mowing lawns and cleaning out chicken coops for everyone within a 10 mile radius so that I could earn enough money to buy the sequel.
There was something extremely satisfying about playing this game. Every time you hit something, the gory death animations would soothe my lust for conquest, but only long enough for me to click on the next Fallen or Zombie that happened to be in the path of my cleaving axe. The violent, morbid imagery constantly reminded you that each floor that you descended was taking you one step closer to hell itself.
I never got to play multiplayer on the original, which from what I'm told was incredibly amusing to incredibly frustrating, but single player was more than enough to keep my interest. I always enjoyed finding and reading the different tomes lying around for the (sadly) minimal amount of lore they were establishing. Although there really wasn't a whole lot to read, each tome was incredibly well written, and really emphasized on the despair aspect of the game.
While I admittedly enjoyed the second game much more than the first, due to a wider variety of class archetypes, diverse landscape and slightly more involved story, the first still holds a pretty special place in my heart. It's the game that set in motion a series of awesomeness.
I'd comment on Diablo 3, but because of my low-quality internet, I can't actually play it. From what I did play while out and about on public wifi, it was amazing.


Final Fantasy 3 or 6 is a pretty confusing game. I think SquareEnix has finally resolved the confusion by setting it at a firm number 6, but title aside, it's easily my favorite Final Fantasy.
Generally, I don't like Final Fantasy. The earlier games were a bit bland for me, as they consisted of fairly standard heroes teaming up to stop a fairly generic villain, and then later on they became more emotionally exaggerated than a 15 year old's Facebook status update. I always felt that, while FF6 did have its share of "wow, get over it" moments, it had a more steady grasp on the concept of characters emoting, rather than just having characters over-react or needlessly and excessively be depressed. The story was good, maybe not great, but it really was the characters that drove this game. The villain is arguably one of the most memorable RPG villains of all time. He was strange, and entirely psychotic. Looking back, it's kind of hard for me to believe that SquareEnix (or Squaresoft, then) actually made him. Character interaction was also pretty interesting, and I always enjoyed the little side-track stuff that happened along the way throughout the game. Like the ghost train. Loves me some ghost train.
Aside from the main villain, there's a frequent, eight tentacle'd, inky antagonist that keeps showing up. While he isn't particularly difficult to defeat, it's great comical relief in an otherwise serious toned game.

SPOILER ALERT: I'm sure by now, anyone that would be interested in this game has probably already played it, given it's had two (that I know of) re-releases since its initial launch. But just in case, spoiler alert.

One thing that really sold me on this game was towards the end. You're on your way to stop Kefka, and I figured my first time through, this was the end of the game. I was wrong. If you don't play your cards right, one of your characters will actually die (Shadow, NOOOO!!!), and additionally, no matter how well you do, you will always be too late, and the world itself is essentially ended. I love dark twists like that, where the good guys can't always save the world, and this was one that left my mouth agape my first time through. I genuinely believed that I had done something wrong, or poorly. I didn't have internet back then, so there was no way to look it up. I just had to struggle onward through the rest of the game with a sense of guilt for not saving the world in time.



Neverwinter Nights is the second AD&D game on my list. It's not on here because of the outstanding story or character interaction, though. Don't get me wrong, the main campaign is fine. It's fairly standard, and some of the quests feel a little tedious, but overall it's worth a play through. The expansions added a lot to it, I thought, and easily exceeded just the vanilla campaign (I was particularly fond of the Hordes of the Underdark).
This game's main appeal was its community, and the encouragement for people to make their own mods, scenarios and dedicated servers. A lot of the high-end player made worlds were often much more enjoyable than the solo game (even if you ran it on multiplayer). Some of them had really in-depth crafting systems, and truly massive worlds. It was like an MMO you only had to pay once for, and if you didn't like the game you were in or got bored, there was always something else as an alternative.
The campaign editor was simplified so that even those of us with no programming or modding experience could easily design our own campaigns and scenarios. This simplification of something that, with enough time, could become something very complex is what really appealed to me. Ultimately, looking back, I think I spent far more time designing my own world than I did playing in it.



Those are my main picks as far as RPGs. There have been some within more recent years that are also worth mentioning; Fallout 3, Skyrim and Mass Effect, as well as other games that I haven't played in so long that it's hard for me to remember why I loved them so much (mainly Arcanum.)
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