Forumula P3 Paints & Bulldog Adhesion Promoter
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Forumula P3 Paints & Bulldog Adhesion Promoter

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When I research/test products I like to take my time especially when it comes to customizing products. If I'm going to recommend something I'm going to make sure it works and find out exactly what it works on. Each product has gone 2 months+ of being applied to make sure they're permanent. Here's two products that made the grade.


Product #1. Formula P3 Acrylic paints by PrivateerPress

At first glance these paints look like the 12 year old Citadel paints that Games Workshop makes complete with the tear-off plastic seal around the lid. But what you actually have is a nearly indestructible paint much like the Testors Model master Acryl series but in 'Game Workshop' type colors. So far I have tried their basic colors including all their metallics, red, black, white, brown, purple, yellow, and one of their blues. These paints stick to ABS (transformers) and PVC (Marvel legends) like pigment possessed. This UK based paint seems to like plastic. It even sticks pretty well to that unpaintable plastic if you sand it lightly first, at least better than what's out there.

The first tests you see on the back of Mudflap and the Hand Ninja here were durability tests, 2 coats of each. Fully cured I cannot even begin to scratch the surface of these with my fingernail where I certainly could with Games Workshop and even Testors Model master flats. Here it's like they've become part of the plastic after about 8 hours. The Formula P3 paints dry the same as any other acrylic, you can use a hairdryer to speed it up, they mix, dilute for washes, and drybrush on.

The one odd thing about them is that while they thin down with water or alcohol, they truly don't get 'thinner'. When applied the paint is still looks like a thick coat and can contain bubbles, tho they are easily blown across and popped. However once it dries the paint 'shrinks down' on to the sculpt and reveals the detail. So watch out when adding water to the paints. It may seem like they're not thinning down in the jar but they are. So do a test patch somewhere. I usually thin the P3 down so they need 3 coats to cover.

The metallics surpass Testors Model Master's metallics in durability and sheen and are -almost- as pretty as Games Workshop's metallics. However the ease of drybrusing/superior durability makes up for the somewhat less-finely ground metal pieces. I'd rather have a bit of sparkle than the paint come off easily like GW's. Still I'm getting use to the look.

The verdict? Buy some P3 paints and try them out. Snag their Quick Silver and Morrow White to start. Those are some great basic colors. I haven't put these through an airbrush yet but since they refuse to thin/flow like normal paints I'd recommend them brush-on only. They do lay perfectly flat when thinned a bit tho and I have painted full Marvel Legends and Transformers with these, a perfect surface each time.




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Product #2. Kean-strip Bulldog Adhesion Promoter spray

[This product is designed for application by trained professionals using proper equipment under controlled conditions. This product is not intended for sale to the general public] <---Warning right on the can.

Funny, because I ordered it online without any questions from the website as to my credentials or business and had it shipped to my door. This is used by auto body shops. So let's get something out of the way first, Bulldog Adhesion Promoter is toxic. It smells toxic, has warning labels suggests you wear solvent-resistant gloves/organic vapors respirator, and makes your figure smell toxic for 12 hours. Awesome... But you know the saying, there's no great reward without risk. So if you're going to use this stuff use it outdoors and you'd better know what you're doing. Take precautions and follow the directions on the can TO THE LETTER.

Get past the danger and what this stuff does is make paint stick. Any kind of paint. To any kind of surface. I've tested it on ABS (transformers), PVC (marvel legends) styrene (Gundam) polycarbonate, even glass. It works on everything except soft rubber capes, it still made those sticky.

Then I tested various paints. First was Games Workshop which are notorious for not being very durable. Two coats and I couldn't get them to scratch off. Testors Model Master Acryl stuck, their enamels stuck, and so did the Forumula P3 paints (but we knew those would). Then I tried Folk Art and Apple Barrel, the kind you get from Walmart and Michaels. Hey, those stuck like glue! They didn't look very nice but properly thinned down I bet they would.

Regardless, any kind of paint I used stuck and wouldn't come off without a fight or a penny rubbed against it. Here's the catch tho, your figure stinks for 12 hours. Even if you paint the whole surface it'll stink and I had to set it outside. It seems within those 12 hours is the best time to apply your main coats. Paint still stuck a few days later but didn't seem to be as durable than the paint applied after one hour. Bulldog also leaves a satin finish on the figure, almost like a sealer. Paint sticks right to that satin finish and if left unpainted you can pick up paint marring from other sources. So make sure you paint over any part you sprayed this on. You can see the shine on the Marvel legends Falcon in the picture below. He has Games Workshop black on him and it won't come off.

The verdict? Wow, if only this stuff wasn't lethal. It makes your crappy paints stick to any plastic, really well to that unpaintable plastic too. I was able to use it on ML shoulder joints and Transformers ball joints with only a little wear (remember to lightly sand first). It gives you a great surface to work with and with professional results. But you had better follow those directions and don't breath this stuff!



And that's the end of the review.

Posted by Jin Saotome
on Wednesday, May 12, 2010
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Cosmic Fantasy Customs -
Monday, June 20, 2011
thanks that will probably help with my ironman custom I am working on. did you order yours directly from their website or another? Have not ordered any and just curious before I did.
I actually got it from a friend of mine who does airbrushing! He had a request to do a piece on a plastic surface. Not needing it for anything else, he gave it to me. I've experimented a little with it but, due to the toxicity, haven't used it on an action figure yet just in case one of my kids somehow got ahold of it. If your okay with the toxic nature- this stuff is great! That combined with the krylon I use for a sealer, I would think I'd need a warning label on my figures! Guess I should do more research on it.


thanks again. know what you mean, when I first tried using plastidip it was like being in a chemical factory outside. I still used a vapor mask and at 85 degrees with 90% humidity I was dying, all the while tyring to learn how to use it. I still have some practice with it, I just get looks of an evil mad scientist in his yard making frankenstein's customs. I don't have any kids or wife to worry about, but I know what your saying about using some of these products/chemicals, maybe we should make a disclaimer for all customs LOL. thanks again.
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RedRebelCustoms -
Monday, June 20, 2011
thanks that will probably help with my ironman custom I am working on. did you order yours directly from their website or another? Have not ordered any and just curious before I did.
I actually got it from a friend of mine who does airbrushing! He had a request to do a piece on a plastic surface. Not needing it for anything else, he gave it to me. I've experimented a little with it but, due to the toxicity, haven't used it on an action figure yet just in case one of my kids somehow got ahold of it. If your okay with the toxic nature- this stuff is great! That combined with the krylon I use for a sealer, I would think I'd need a warning label on my figures! Guess I should do more research on it.
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Cosmic Fantasy Customs -
Saturday, June 18, 2011
thanks that will probably help with my ironman custom I am working on. did you order yours directly from their website or another? Have not ordered any and just curious before I did.
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RedRebelCustoms -
Friday, June 17, 2011
The Bulldog Adhesion Promoter works great with any plastic and anything airbrushed! If you lay down Bulldog, use a black base coat, and then the Bulldog again or an acrylic sealer- it makes metallic effects look super clean and durable.
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pock63 -
Friday, June 17, 2011
Thanks for the feedback guys. I kneed to buy some of these.
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Finn Varra -
Friday, June 17, 2011
They have them at the Source. I'm assuming you've been to the Source before since you live in MN. If not, you should go. It's like a Valhalla for comics and gaming stuff.

I didn't notice them last time I was there but I was spending all my money on Games Workshop paints and figures.
I was just there, they have them. They are over near the flock/terrain stuff. If you ask one of the guys at the desk they'll show you.
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Cosmic Fantasy Customs -
Friday, June 17, 2011
They have them at the Source. I'm assuming you've been to the Source before since you live in MN. If not, you should go. It's like a Valhalla for comics and gaming stuff.

I didn't notice them last time I was there but I was spending all my money on Games Workshop paints and figures.


at privateer press they have a bundle pack for either $200-300 and you get almost all of the colors. I am still saving up to try this, I like the games workshop paints but do not like how weak they are as compared to the model masters. to find the paint go to privateer press and look up formula P3 this gives you the option of their paints, brushes, dvds and tools. Look under that section to find bundles and it will show you a lot of the colors and names, as you could also order individual paints for around 4 dollars a piece. hope that helps.
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pock63 -
Wednesday, June 15, 2011
They have them at the Source. I'm assuming you've been to the Source before since you live in MN. If not, you should go. It's like a Valhalla for comics and gaming stuff.

I didn't notice them last time I was there but I was spending all my money on Games Workshop paints and figures.
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Finn Varra -
Tuesday, June 14, 2011
They have them at the Source. I'm assuming you've been to the Source before since you live in MN. If not, you should go. It's like a Valhalla for comics and gaming stuff.
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mega_star_andro -
Tuesday, June 14, 2011
http://www.PrivateerPress.com under Store and Forumla P3 paints or your local gameshop, Alien Wares or such. They are 3.50 american dollars each on the website around the same at the local stores.
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pock63 -
Tuesday, June 14, 2011
Where do you buy the formula p3 paints?
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mega_star_andro -
Tuesday, June 14, 2011
I've tried the yellow and it works better than any other I've ever used! They are around the same price as GW or Testors, maybe like 10 cents more expensive but thats at my local games store.
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Cosmic Fantasy Customs -
Monday, June 13, 2011
did you order the bulldog spray from the company or an external website? that sounds tough to use but worth the effort. how much time does this save by not having to sand down the joints as much? as always thanks for the info.
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somebody1 -
Wednesday, May 12, 2010
how much are the P3 paints? I know game workshop stuff isn't cheap. The cheap walmart stuff works pretty good if you water it down and do a lot of coats.
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