Jedi vs. Superheros

It's also very debatable. Yes, you could say it's Micheal's rage possessing her - but an equally strong arguement can be made that whatever was possessing Micheal has moved onto Jamie.

Which, personaly, I prefer. I always did think that after the first killings in the first film, something possessed the catatonic Micheal and encouraged his rage to grow.

Oy, vey... that's lame imho.

Since when has Micheal ever had mind control powers?

At the end of HalloweeN 4 return of Michael Myers he made Jamie ( his niece ) stab her foster mom .

That's what I asked. If he has mind controlling powers, that's definitely news to me.

Since when has Micheal ever had mind control powers?

watching Anikian dismember MM would be fun to watch kind of like the Black Knight scene from MP quest for the holy grail without the banter

Jedi have mind controlling powers as well, and I'm pretty sure most would be more intellegent than Michael Myers and could block his powers from entering their minds, and decapitate him easily, an entire body part would be much more difficult to regenerate than bullet/knife wounds, especially when the brain and heart are not connected and thus non-functioning.

Wha? I always thought Micheal Myers was just some non-supernatural shmuck in a mask... o.O

...kind of "Jason Lite"

I would think that the Sith would be able to defeat superheroes . But if it were killers vs. Jedi than heres a few who would get killed by a Jedi , Jason Voorhees , Thomas Hewitt , and maybe Freddy Krueger . But Michael Myers who has mind controlling powers , regenertating health , and a curse the makes him unstoppible could take out 20
Jedis by making them figth each other untill the death .

So Michael Myers is my vote .

Durge is crazy.

Ah, points taken.

Anyone read the Thunderbolts Civil War issues? If so, remember that chick Joystick? She kicked the ever loving crap out of Speed Demon. I think she'd be trouble for any Jedi out there.

remeber when Alderon was blown up and Obi-wan was like I feel a great disturbance in the force? same thing the force links all life together so the more sensetive you are the easier you would feel a hundred force users go down like a drunk prom queen

He felt the deaths of all the other Jedi and was able to sense both troopers sneaking up behind him.

Hundreds of Jedi arent killed by droids all in the same five minutes, he knew something was wrong.

1) he's yoda
2) he probably overheard, or was able to sense that something was amiss sooner, because he's 800+ years old and the wisest of the Jedi.

Alright, so why was Yoda able to sense it?

Happened in the CW comics LK(which fills in the 3 yrs of CW between the movies so its canon)

He got hit with about 20 explosive charges(though it hardly did anything other then fry his voicebox) and then kicked into an escape pod and blasted into a star.

But ya, in the CW after he is "defeated" by Obi he is shown starting to reform.

Yep, that was another issue with the clones. Since they were "implanted" with the order, they didn't see themselves as doing anything else then following orders, which they had always done. As such, the jedi weren't able to sense any betrayel, ill thoughts, etc until they were being shot at.

Also one reason why the jedi lost so easily is that they were going into battle against the droids and the betrayal took them off guard and usually the clones started firing before the jedi could notice something was wrong.

One problem with Darth Maul is that although he is a great fighter, he rarely uses force powers, and when he does it's just basic things like force push.

I was also highly disappointed with Grievous in the film after how awesome he was in Clone Wars. Although he did get his lungs damaged by Windu and Obi-Wan was a more skilled jedi than those Grievous fought in CW, he still died too quickly.

I also thought Durge was awesome, but did that being launched into a star thing happen in the comics or books or seomthing; I don't remember that happening, just Durge being beaten by Obi-Wan and as the camera zoomed out, it looked like his body was going to slowly reform.

At the end of the last movie when it showed all those Jedi being ganked by the troopers, most of them shown were Masters... one or two were even on the Jedi Council. I see your point but I believe that the fact that despite their ability to use the Force, Jedi are as vulnerable to harm as any human is what puts them at a disadvantage against many superhumans.



Which is why I said Yoda, Obi Wan and Windu would do the best.



Which version? I saw Clone Wars and he was a serious badass in it... then in the movie he's a freaking chump.

I agree with the Clone vs Jedi thing-they were easily outnumbered and even Jedi can be overwhelmed. MOST of the stronger force sensitives were killed by Anakin though. I still see your point though, they have limitations but so do heros.

Definetly Yoda, etc would do much better in combat-Darth Maul would be interesting to see.

I don't like of the film versions as their "real" versions-just because how pathetic they come off, Grevious was disarmed how fast? Im talking CW toons badass, by EP3 he had racked up over 50 Jedi kills, gotta do something to some of our neighborhood heros.


Now for a good battle-Durge, hes like Wolvie, hes not gonna die easily(hell it took launching him into a star to kill him).

Ah, but what if the jedi was an alien with yellow skin?

okay I see a bunch of Marvel Vs Jedi what about some of the big hitters from DC.
GL corps vs the jedi?
Jedi powers:
mind control : nope
force throw: it would work
light saber: dunno can it cut through pure will power? I think not
speed: yeah
strength: yeah

GL powers:
pretty much damn near anything. I think the fight goes to the corps "them Jedi's is poozers"

He was only a chump in the movie because Windu had crushed his lungs in the Clone Wars.

Ahhh I see. That does make sense then. Thanks VP.

He was only a chump in the movie because Windu had crushed his lungs in the Clone Wars.

The lightsaber vs Adamantium thing has been widely debated on the internet for years. I'm of the opinion that lightsabers are not powerful enough to cut Adamantium, period. Lightsabers have an extremely tough time cutting through starship blast doors, and Adamantium is 10 to 20 times stronger than blast door material.

I still say the funniest fight would be Juggernaut vs any of them. Oh I'm sure they could think of some tricks to slow him down, but no one in the Star Wars universe is capable of inflicting physical harm upon him.



At the end of the last movie when it showed all those Jedi being ganked by the troopers, most of them shown were Masters... one or two were even on the Jedi Council. I see your point but I believe that the fact that despite their ability to use the Force, Jedi are as vulnerable to harm as any human is what puts them at a disadvantage against many superhumans.



Which is why I said Yoda, Obi Wan and Windu would do the best.



Which version? I saw Clone Wars and he was a serious badass in it... then in the movie he's a freaking chump.

I would go with the Sith's winning. This does include General Grievous right? That guy is awesome though he would die with a shot of a blast to the chest...

Yes Jedi are basically superheroes and sith are basically supervillians. However, most of the powers that jedi have aren't as powerful as similar ones had by superheroes.

Ex: Sidious' force lightning < Thor's lightning.
Yes, some would be evenly matched. Like Wolverine vs. a Jedi Master/Sith Lord, as long as Lightsabers can't quickly cut through adamantium and the jedi is using the force to make their reactions quicker, they should be roughly evenly matched.
And sometimes Jedi could win, like say Human Torch vs. Mace Windu, Windu could probably win, as long as Johnny doesn't fly off and leave.

Aren't Jedi and Sith just the Star Wars equivalent of Super Heroes? I think some would be evenly matched.

Another reason why Sith would be more capable of taking down superheroes.

Now for the real question: Why would the Jedi and Superheroes fight? They're all on the side of right.

Technically though, the 501st was trained to deal with Jedi threats and knew how to deal with their force powers. Also, most of the only ones left in the Temple were younglings, Padawans and a handful of masters(who still did take a good chunck of out the Clones ranks)

Depends which Jedi you're talking about, it kinda varies with them all.

Though not a Jedi, Grevious would own quite a few heros.

Ahh I see. Is he the huge guy with tha scarred face and weird looking jaw?

Who's Marv?

He's only the most bad azz guy from Frank Miller's sin city line of books. The whole premis of the book is a hooker sleeps with him for free and is killed so he goes on a murderous rampage killing everybody till he finds the real killer.

Also inculded is:

Lots 'o hookers
Half naked lesabian prole officer
Classic cars
Canablisim

It's called "The Hard Goodbye" Check it out if you can.

Who's Marv?

Depends on the superhero. The Flash would pummel nearly any Jedi. It's hard to focus the Force when you have no time to think, let alone react to an attack.

Standard heroes like Cyclops, Hawkeye and Daredevil? Sure, a Jedi would stomp them. Old school Juggernaut would laugh at both the Force and any lightsaber used on him. That force field makes him one of the most end all be all completely indestructible beings in Marvel.

Remember, it was shown in the last movie that a single squad of trained soldiers was more than capable of taking down every Jedi with the exception of Obi Wan, Yoda and Mace Windu... and Obi Wan only survived because the shot hit his mount and the soldiers assumed he died in the fall.

Mind control only works on those with weak minds, so it probably wouldn't work on people like Prof. X, Mr. Fantastic, etc.

Also, I don't really think a shield created with the force could withstand a punch from someone like Hulk or Thor. Same thing with force push, if the person is too strong or immovable, a jedi wouldn't be able to push them.

Magneto could destroy their lightsabers. And it would take longer to cut through Juggernaut's armor, Colossus, or adamantium than it would most metals that droids and ships are made of.

I think the sith would be moreso of a challenge to superheroes as they have more offensive moves, rather than defensive. Plus most wouldn't be able to block lightning, choking, or the insanity attacks(cause enemies to become insane temporarily).

Marv would still win.

Matches on strengh, endurance, stamina, ablity to take injures.

Only he's too "confused" for mind tricks to work on him.

Also he doesn't know when to give up.

Marv rocks!!!