One More Day...Who else wants to kill themselves?

Fine then! I'm gettin' my Squishen Mallet c.!

oh no - it is so on now! we're going at it tooth and nail!

God d@mned Marvel Zombies...It was novel when they first came out with it, but they've just ran into the freaking ground!

this whole situation just adds to the list of reasons for me to continue not reading spiderman books. I already avoided it because I dislike his rediculous popularity, mostly brought on by mediocre movies. I grew out of liking him as a character long before I even had a chance to pick up a comic. my comic reading is relegated to series that I have had the pleasure of reading from start until finish, and I've never had a chance to pick up any of his many series first issues. this has been detrimental to my knowledge of the marvel universe(mystic spider? never heard about it. thought he was still using the cartridges the whole time), but a guys got to have standards. I'll stick with my new x-men(if I can ever find #26. yes, I haven't read a comic since 25{they are currently on 46} because it would ruin my continuity) new warriors, and random miniseries(mostly zombie related)

publicity is what they want - it sells more comics which means they sell more ads - that's the bottom line.

so let me throw this question out - are you guys going to stop buying Spider-Man titles because of this shake up?

Actually, this was just the tipping point for me. I have seen in the last two years a drop in quality and inconsitancies in characteriztions. Tony is the worst of the lot. In one book, he is displayed as a iron fisted, no pun intended, power hungry dictator, and in another, a gentle caring soul that wants the fighting to end. Just pick up varying books that tie into the Civil War and you will see what I'm talking about.

I think I've already brought up my problems with Peter's actions already and how they are vastly out of character and merely a way to force the writters political views on the War on Terror and Guantanomo Bay into the comics, with a not so sublte sledge hammer.

I think if Marvel had done the removal of the marrige belivable, and actually made me feel something more than rage at blatent disrespect for the characters and horrible writting, I would still be picking it up.

I give you an example of when they brought Bucky back as the Winter Soilder. People where in an uproar over resurecting the character, but they did it with such passion and heart, combined top notch writting, even the people that hated the idea gave it a thumbs up.

I'm sorry if you felt that I was attacking you, I was just bring a counter point to the debate. You do have a few good points, but I still don't agree entirly with you. Please don't take offence to it.

jeez, excuse me for voicing my opinion. I'm not arguing anything here - I'm just stating my theory on why I think Marvel went this route with Spider-Man. I thought the OMD premise was pretty lame. but then this is a comic book, I'm not losing sleep over it.



publicity is what they want - it sells more comics which means they sell more ads - that's the bottom line.

so let me throw this question out - are you guys going to stop buying Spider-Man titles because of this shake up?

They had interesting stories. Or at least the potential for interesting stories but the writters, or at least artists turned writters, don't know how to write good stories about a married couple. What about MJ's side of the family? They showed up for one or two issues back in the 90's then dropped of the face of the Earth. There was so much they could have done with a marrige but didn't.

Some say that any potential for drama is lost when he got married...WTF?!? I do not know about you guys, but I know for a fact that when people get married, you learn how much of a freak filled gene pool the other comes from.

You also had it wrong. The mask-removal is gone.

Come on, the guy has had so much cr@p dumbed on him since he was a little kid, he deserves a hottie/red-head/supermodile wife. Well, former supermodile. Marrige was the logical progression for MJ and Peter's relationship. Marrige doesn't make a charater uninteresting, but merely makes them more relatable. There are some characters that should never be married. Batman for example.

But what is most unfourtunate is that this is excatly what Joe Q wanted. This move had drummed up the same level of publicicty for them like the Death of Superman did for DC. He thinks that marrige makes the characters unrelatable to kids. What he doesn't reilieze is that kids don't read comics anymore. The average demographic for comics is people in their 20's and 40's. Kids get into comics because of the parants constent reading of them and sharing them with the children. That is the only way that kids get into comics now adays.

This move has angered many long time readers, making a lot of them drop Spider-Man, thusly their kids who lack the money to buy comics, don't read them anymore.

I will say this, at least Joe didn't bring back Gwen Stacy. Only Harry Osborn!

Yeah but a Spidey with -no- happiness is a depressing Spidey.

but that is the great thing about Spidey - as bad as his life is he still puts on his costume, tries to help people and wisecracks the whole time. he's never depressing.

Yeah but a Spidey with -no- happiness is a depressing Spidey.

a happy Spidey is a boring Spidey.

I just think that Marvel is trying to shake things up so that they can write some interesting stories.

I don't worry about Spider-Man too much - he's got radioactive blood and can swing from a thread - he's got it made.

So you think Spider-Man's purpose is to be the Marvel Universe's big cosmic toilet for the world to s**t on? I know Joe Q does, and I think it's wrong. Jeez, the poor guy deserves -some- happiness after all he's been through...

as Hulk said on Fwoosh - Let Aunt May die! She had her chance already!

my 2 cents - Marvel should never have had Parker marry MJ in the 1st place way back when. the basis of his character is that he's a loser that never ever gives up and when he succeeds as Spider-Man he can't take any credit for it. how can you be a loser when you're married to a hottie / red-head / super model? this was the only way Marvel could return Spider-Man back to his roots without a full reboot. you can't just kill MJ off - everyone still knows Spidey's secret ID - look how many times they've outed DD and come up with some lame-o way to fool everyone into believing it's not Matt Murdock. it's a corny / lame idea but what else is Marvel gonna do?

in a couple years Marvel will have some big Battle with Mephisto and all the minions of Hell storyline and Peter and MJ will be reunited, Wolverine will forget his past and Steve Rogers will come back from the dead and bring along Cap Marvel (they're gonna kill him again aren't they?), the Vision, Jack Of Hearts, Scott Ant-Man Lang, Jean Grey and all the other characters they've killed off since 1968. and everyone will be griping about that.

nuff said.

consider this - at least Marvel doesn't have the cluster f- that DC has going on right now with the unending crisis stories.

I usually stay out of the comics thread but this one dragged me in.

I'm on the boat that this was nothing more than a cop out to the Spider books. I've always liked Spidey and will continue to do so but this just left a bad taste in my mouth. I agree though that the return of the webshooter is a + but to me thats really just it.

Since the end of Civil War and the diappointing end of Marvel Zombies I have been on the decline with the company as a whole. I like the characters but stuff like this always put me thinking twice before droping cash to complete a stiryline. Oh well at least I still have Cable and Deadp .o .o. nope it got cancelled to.

MAKE MINE MANGA!

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Speak for yourself. I always thought his marriage to MJ was a very important aspect of the character. It was the -only- good thing that ever really happened to the poor guy. He always had life crap on him, but at least he had a loving wife to come home to. Throw him a freaking bone.



He can do that and still be a married man.



You're certainly welcome to that opinion. Just stating mine here bro. No worries.

I didn't really give a hoot about the mystical connection. The Stingers where pretty cool. Talking to spiders...eh...I liked the Organic webshooters. I never understood why Stan and Steve didn't give them to him in the first place, but I would keep the web catragies around for emergency detanment of big baddies. You already know my opinion on the marrige. I think it adds a lot to the everyman aspect of Peter.

The Clone Saga had immense potential. That was shown in the Ultimate imprint. The biggest failiuer of it was A) Too many clones!, B) The Spidey people had been reading for 20 years was a fake. That is what you call a b@tch slap to the fans. C) Ressurection of Norman Osborn. That was a classic freaking story and one of the best villains deaths ever! D) TOO MANY GOD D@MNED CLONES! Liked Kaine.

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Speak for yourself. I always thought his marriage to MJ was a very important aspect of the character. It was the -only- good thing that ever really happened to the poor guy. He always had life crap on him, but at least he had a loving wife to come home to. Throw him a freaking bone.



He can do that and still be a married man.



You're certainly welcome to that opinion. Just stating mine here bro. No worries.

here's my two cents:

Until I ran out of funds (around issue three) I was enjoying ODL. I always though that the whole "mystic spider" aspect of spiderman stunk. Giving him stingers? Stunk. Bringing him back to a nerd who BUILDS his webshooters isn't such a bad move. Who care about mj? No one that's who. Peter is getting back to his wisecracking roots, and I am stoaked on it.

p.s. clone saga rules!

I agree with you for the most part...however wether or not Parker's marriage is erased doesn't matter. I in fact could care less if he and MJ where together or if it were someone else. I always kinda thought it complicated Spiderman to have married MJ, or at least it complicated the story. And I do admit it was the natural progression of the story, but now we get to see what would happen otherwise.

This is all because of one man... Joe Quesada. He hates the idea of Peter and MJ's marriage... always has. He's deliberately doing this retarded storyline (which mark my words will be as unpopular as the Clone Saga) just to stroke his own ego and "screw the fans and what they want" mentality.

From what I read both Peter and MJ have one small shred of remembrance of their previous lives together...to make them feel the pain without knowing why...I'm sure what will happen is one of those "love will conquer all" story lines and all will be right in the world...although with the fat check from Stark you'd think that Aunt May might recover.

I'm talking about Spider-Man. If you hadn't heard, Aunt May was shot by a sniper and was dying. Spider-Man went to almost everyone he knew to try to find someone that could save her life. No one could save her life but Mephestio appeared and promised to save her life if Peter and MJ sacrificed their marrige and any memory of it. They said yes and Mephesto also threw in a Scrub Away Mask Removal Card for free so the world no longer knows Peter and Spider-Man are on in the same. Afterword Peter woke up in his bed, living with a living Aunt May, with mechanical web shooters and going to a party for HARRY OSBORN who died of a drug overdoes years prior.

So in other words, they took away a fairly good story line, enhanced powers, resurected a character that should have stayed dead and destroyed 20 years of continuity. This better be an illusion Mephesto put them both in so he could do something bad to them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_More_Day_(comics)

Sounds interesting...I've not read any of it, I'd like to know how it ends.

I dig the alternate and convoluted time lines and such.

Huh?

what you talkin about man???