Though I agree that the "events" are getting old, I've really enjoyed Dark Reign, though I don't like that they basically said from the beginning "this isn't going to last long". Not that anything in comics is permanent, but you know.
Here's my issue with Marvel these days. It's all about the big cross over events, I.e. House of M, WWH, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign, and now Seige. It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't back to back, it's like they can't make anything without the big gimmicky events anymore.
I didn't say World War Hulk, you added that one. I hated World War Hulk, most pointless Crossover event since DC's War of the Gods. Planet Hulk on the other-hand was freaking awesome and you're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't read it.
As for the Ultimate lines, yeah I mostly hate them too. I don't touch Ultimate Spider-Man or Ultimate X-Men, but Ultimates is the exception to the rule. Check out the 12 issue maxi-series of Ultimates and Ultimates 2. It's very adult (and I don't mean that in a pornographic way). Stay away from Ultimates 3, different creative team that created nothing but crap on that one.
And yeah, I can agree with you about OMD. That was the biggest steaming pile of dung I have ever read. It was even worse than JMS run on Amazing Spider-Man which I loath.
I noticed that you said since the 90s. I'm glad I'm not alone, most comic fans love to hate the 90s. I'm a big 90s fan. I loved J.M. DeMattis on Amazing Spider-Man, I loved Mark Bagleys art on it as well. Fatal Attractions and Age of Apocalypse was happening in the X-Men books. Danny Ketch Ghost Rider was great. The Clone Saga I loved (even though most fans hated it). I love Venom and Carnage, and the 90s had plenty of them. A personal favorite book of mine, Quasar, was in it's prime. We got the Infinity Trilogy. And Marvel was making awesome comic cards and action figures by the butt-load. But that doesn't diminish what I see as innovations in the 2000s.
Speaking of the 90s, Marvel wasn't the only good thing. DC was having Emerald Twilight and Kyle Rayner's debut in Green Lantern. Zero Hour and Armageddon 2001 are awesome crossover events. The Death and Return of Superman. The breaking of Batman's back in Knightfall and the ensuing Knightquest. Flash was at the height of quality with Mark Waid's run. James Robinson's Starman was very unique & enjoyable, and any comic fan should give it a try. And Morrison's JLA was incredible, arguably the greatest run in JLA history. I also loved all the gimmick covers everyone else hates, hologram and chromium covers are beautiful. Add to that the birth of Image Comics and Top Cow Productions, the other big 2 comic companies, and you have a helluva comic decade!
Wait, you think the most innovative era in Marvel since the 70s sucked?
Not all of it, but Joe Q's editorial mandates have for the most part been bad decisions and his attitude of "screw continuity" is a giant middle finger to old fans like myself.
Haven't read it yet, but it revolves around the Scarlet Witch, one of my least favorite characters.
Utter crap (imo)
One of the only really good stories I've seen come out of Marvel since the 90s.
I really dislike the Ultimate line and I resent that the movies and other media like video games have such a strong Ultimates base in them (like in Ultimate Alliance the CGI sequences were all Ultimate characters, or Samuel L Jackson as Fury in the Iron Man movies).
Meh, the only purpose to either of those stories was to show how all powerful the Hulk supposedly is. The Hulk withstanding Black Bolt's scream at point blank range? The Hulk's not -that- tough.
Yep, here's the other really good story. But this along with Civil War was about it.
*Retches*
Is this the Bucky Captain America? I don't worship false idols.
I didn't read Iron Man before, and after Civil War I'll never read him again. Tony Stark is a fascist douchbag.
Well considering I loathed a few of the things you feel are gold, I think we can say without a shadow of a doubt that we have differing opinions on the matter. No worries, though. I'm just glad you didn't list One More Day as gold. My god, OMD is the primary reason that I don't care for Joe Q as EIC. He -forced- the writer to write the story because in his opinion, Spider-Man was "better" when he was single and living with his Aunt May eating wheatcakes everyday.
Wait, you think the most innovative era in Marvel since the 70s sucked? Avengers Disassembled, House of M & Decimation, Civil War, Ultimates, Planet Hulk, Annihilation, Nova, Morrison's X-Men, Brubaker's Captain America, Fraction's Iron Man. My god, this stuff is gold! Forget the status quo!
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I'm kind of partial to Kitchen Irish.
I love the quote " It's been a long time since I killed a man from a huey"
There awesome!!!
Hayy! I like that!! I think its kinda cool!
But yeah....if they screw up MAX...then I'll be pissed...
Not in the MAX books.
disney is the masters of marketing
we are gonna have so many marvel figures out we won't know what to do
-Nate-
As for the Ultimate lines, yeah I mostly hate them too. I don't touch Ultimate Spider-Man or Ultimate X-Men, but Ultimates is the exception to the rule. Check out the 12 issue maxi-series of Ultimates and Ultimates 2. It's very adult (and I don't mean that in a pornographic way). Stay away from Ultimates 3, different creative team that created nothing but crap on that one.
And yeah, I can agree with you about OMD. That was the biggest steaming pile of dung I have ever read. It was even worse than JMS run on Amazing Spider-Man which I loath.
I noticed that you said since the 90s. I'm glad I'm not alone, most comic fans love to hate the 90s. I'm a big 90s fan. I loved J.M. DeMattis on Amazing Spider-Man, I loved Mark Bagleys art on it as well. Fatal Attractions and Age of Apocalypse was happening in the X-Men books. Danny Ketch Ghost Rider was great. The Clone Saga I loved (even though most fans hated it). I love Venom and Carnage, and the 90s had plenty of them. A personal favorite book of mine, Quasar, was in it's prime. We got the Infinity Trilogy. And Marvel was making awesome comic cards and action figures by the butt-load. But that doesn't diminish what I see as innovations in the 2000s.
Speaking of the 90s, Marvel wasn't the only good thing. DC was having Emerald Twilight and Kyle Rayner's debut in Green Lantern. Zero Hour and Armageddon 2001 are awesome crossover events. The Death and Return of Superman. The breaking of Batman's back in Knightfall and the ensuing Knightquest. Flash was at the height of quality with Mark Waid's run. James Robinson's Starman was very unique & enjoyable, and any comic fan should give it a try. And Morrison's JLA was incredible, arguably the greatest run in JLA history. I also loved all the gimmick covers everyone else hates, hologram and chromium covers are beautiful. Add to that the birth of Image Comics and Top Cow Productions, the other big 2 comic companies, and you have a helluva comic decade!
-Nate-
Not all of it, but Joe Q's editorial mandates have for the most part been bad decisions and his attitude of "screw continuity" is a giant middle finger to old fans like myself.
Haven't read it yet, but it revolves around the Scarlet Witch, one of my least favorite characters.
Utter crap (imo)
One of the only really good stories I've seen come out of Marvel since the 90s.
I really dislike the Ultimate line and I resent that the movies and other media like video games have such a strong Ultimates base in them (like in Ultimate Alliance the CGI sequences were all Ultimate characters, or Samuel L Jackson as Fury in the Iron Man movies).
Meh, the only purpose to either of those stories was to show how all powerful the Hulk supposedly is. The Hulk withstanding Black Bolt's scream at point blank range? The Hulk's not -that- tough.
Yep, here's the other really good story. But this along with Civil War was about it.
*Retches*
Is this the Bucky Captain America? I don't worship false idols.
I didn't read Iron Man before, and after Civil War I'll never read him again. Tony Stark is a fascist douchbag.
Well considering I loathed a few of the things you feel are gold, I think we can say without a shadow of a doubt that we have differing opinions on the matter. No worries, though. I'm just glad you didn't list One More Day as gold. My god, OMD is the primary reason that I don't care for Joe Q as EIC. He -forced- the writer to write the story because in his opinion, Spider-Man was "better" when he was single and living with his Aunt May eating wheatcakes everyday.
-Nate-