Avengers vs. X-Men 2012 "WOW"

I've been reading it, and it's pretty surprising. I can't wait for the final issue.

I can see it already

don't forget about hawkeye almost dying, and yeah that was awesome when spiderman put the team on his back, I think that will piss hope off to no end when she finds out. I think storm and panths arent going to be forever broken up.. theyre too much of an item, but we will see! im still wiaiting for that oh man moment when somethign drastically turns the favor of this, and now that magik and colossus have presumably defeated each other, and emma is going crazy, she might go on a massacre, causing a final showdown between her and scott.

I finally caught up! Man, that battle with Spidey getting worked over by Colossus and Magik, that was rought to read. It always comes down to Spidey!

Interesting twists and turns and I'm interested to see where this is leading up to and of course the fallout. My biggest concern was that nothing long-lasting would happen, but there already seem to be reprecussions, like Storm and Panther, or Ms. Marvel in limbo, small ones, but noticeable.

I'm surprised at how entertaining this series has been and look forward to the epic showdown.

And where the heck is Nate Grey in all of this?

The battle between Namor and Black Panther should be great! So they say there is going to be a surprise that will keep Black Panther not to end his marriage with Storm. Can we say BABY???? Twins would be kool! Thoughts?

ill let you know as soon as I read it!

the shi'ar I totally forgot! kid gladiator is in the x mansion, and I remember gladiator was heading towards earth! I forgot all about that! im also expecting cable to make an appearance, especially since he raised hope! I wish yo uread round 8 so I can tell you my other idea, but I can't lol

ah, I never ever thought of that. cyttorak! he definetely has to play a role! I recently became a big iron fist fan with the recent release of the immortal iron fist story line. even during the civil war, I thought it was cool when he pretended to be daredevil. I like him on the ultimate spider-man show. I'm also glad he's playing a big role in this series. I've been reading new avengers where they've been showing him as hope's mentor, but this last issue I read showed spider-man is supposed to become another of hope's mentors. very interesting!

I can't wait to read 7 and 8. I honestly don't know where they're going with it, but I know Wanda and her chaos magic has to be involved. another thing I was thinking about, why hasn't Nate Grey or Rachel Grey been selected as an avatar? and where the hell are the Shi'ar? I thought they were enemies of the phoenix? what happened to the M'Kraan crystal??? all these questions!

all I know is, it'll come down to Spider-Man to figure it out and I can't wait for (green) Hulk to fly in and SMASH! LOL

round 7 is a little slow, but round 8 is awesome, it throws a big twist into it! what do you think might happen later in this series? im interested to see the roll iron fist has to play, im kinda of glad they are making him play such an important roll. I also feel like cyttorak might play apart, as the phoenix is messing with his avatar, and we have seen before that cyttorak hates when people mess with his current avatar

not yet, I'm on round six. anything good happen in round 7 & 8?

Hulk I havent caught up on all my VS yet but did you read round 8 yet?

Has anyone been reading the Vs Issues of AvsX? Fun reads, highly recommend. No story, just throwdowns. Just read Daredevil vs Psylocke and Thor vs White Queen. Check them out!

"COLOSSUS WINS" Yeah man!!!!

I just read all the pages of the post and you are all very funny and very insightful and obviously very passionate about this storyline.

Let's just agree, for the record, that neither side really wins in this throwdown. Although fun to see both sides squirmish every 10 years, there are never any real reprecussions of a fight like this. Spider-Man will end up teaming up with all of them again, Cap and Cyke will be BBF again, and no one will like the Hulk anyway.

Surprised to see that no one has questioned Cap's motives in this one. Just a while ago, he was fighting AGAINST registration, against the very idea he's trying to pursue in this series, and that's the imprisonment of Hope Summers. Any way you look at it, whether he wants to train her or protect her, the bottom line is Cap wants to be in charge of her, keep tabs on her, and control her, which was the ideal that got him "killed." In one issue, even Iron Man brings it up, and Cap just brushes it off claiming "this is different." To me, cap has never been as narrow-minded as he is in this series, and it bothers me. It bothers me that instead of trying to work it out with Cyclops, or even Wolverine, he'd rather throwdown. That's not Captain America, that's not Steve Rogers.

The evolution of Cyclops comes to a head in this series. From Xavier's advocate to Mutant Rights Leader Magneto could never be. His hand is forces against Cap's tyranny, and although I haven't necessarily been pro-Cyke for a while, I side with his ideals in this fight.

There are interesting moments. Storm vs Panther, Rulk vs Colossunaut, Namor vs Luke Cage. Also, extremely intersting to see Iron Fist play a huge role in all of this. I'm excited to see how Scarlet Witch will factor in, and what part X-Man (Nate Grey), Rachel Summers, or even Cable will play. Maybe we're all wrong, maybe its not here for Hope. Maybe Mr. Marvel will host the Phoenix entity. Maybe Iron Fist.

Hell, maybe Spidey will take on Phonenix powers again!?!

What you gunna do when his 26 inch steel pythons run wild on yoooooouuuuu brother

Ha! Well played, sir.

What you gunna do when his 26 inch steel pythons run wild on yoooooouuuuu brother

Colossus also is teh wwe champion!

PROOF!!!

If by peace you mean piece of pie then you got a deal El Amigo!

yes.if it means peace.

But I still totally scorched you right? Psssst hey say yes !

I have been cool since my very first post today and I hold my ground to this statement. I am not here to instigate a fight nor am I here to be bullied around, due to my number of posts.I originally was just responding to someone about combining characters and wanted to clarify information, nothing more nothing less.unfortunately the end result is far less than what I expected. I had no malice at heart when I asked the question and still have none. however I still maintain my stand that the question I originally posted was not to harm anyone's feelings, but as purely an inquisition. I am willing to do whatever it takes for peace to ensue, and if that means apologizing then, my sincerest apologies to anyone offended.

Ok guys, lets cool it in here before warnings are needed. Don't care who started it, who said what, lets just all get along, ta!!

Im not angry . I never sought this argument. I just saw a new post and saw you being very rude. Both 3B and Galactape called you on it before I said anything thus the argument already being in progress before I said one word.

I find your anger amusing

As for reading without buying, it is my way of boycotting the industry.

So other people find that you have an ego, and in other news water is wet. I never said you were a hero,I said that you think yourself as one... but I keep forgetting that I am talking to someone with an I.q. less than 50, by the way that is my bad. As for calling me a hypocrite I find it more amusing now that you openly admitted that you are not a chill person yet you ask that from someone else... that is hypocrisy in its finest.
Again you lack simple comprehension. I am pretty sure if you took off the rage goggles and stopped flipping between dictionary.com and replying youd see I said time/money, MEANING either or. But its okay one day you will be able to function as a humanoid instead of some sub-terrain creature who throws around accusations based on things he knows nothing about. Insulting are claiming I have an IQ of 50 or less is laughable by anyone who has known me for any length of time. I also know you never said I was a hero and that you accused me of thinking myself a hero. I simply stated that people must view me as something amazing when they accuse me of heroics . There is no "charging in" you posted several times in a very rude manner on a PUBLIC forum. Meaning anyone can reply to anything you say. If you wanted it to stay between you and 3B you should have PM'd him. You call me pretentious yet you constantly claim your right everyone else is wrong and here is why. Sorry buddy but that's the pot calling the kettle black (or are you still upset about blacks getting all the attention). Eventually you will learn this is a very friendly forum when you stop acting like a jerk. Your just another member who very rarely posts unless its to argue or complain. You add NOTHING to the community.

So you go into stores and just read and never buy ?.........Shame on you and Colossus still wins!!!

So other people find that you have an ego, and in other news water is wet. I never said you were a hero,I said that you think yourself as one... but I keep forgetting that I am talking to someone with an I.q. less than 50, by the way that is my bad. As for calling me a hypocrite I find it more amusing now that you openly admitted that you are not a chill person yet you ask that from someone else... that is hypocrisy in its finest.

"YEP!!!!!!!"

hmm so its my understanding colossus has won...correct?

I have never called myself a hero cute to say the least.

I like 3B find this whole situation hysterical. This guy is getting so upset that he is having a hard time bashing and trolling another member for his favorite character that it is just making him throw a complete tantrum

"COLOSSUS WINS".....NUFF' SAID!!!!!!

Ahhh, name calling now... I don't see that as an act of a civil and chill person to me... but if you are so eager to come and swing your massive ego around and use your laughable excuse of intellect to somehow come up with this radical notion of putting another person down , which by the way is simply mind boggling, then so be it. If you think that just because you and your friends have been here awhile that I would back down from your "bullying" you can forget it. My first question, even up to now, was not answered...I, unlike you, do not pretend to know everything and was simply inquiring...but since none of you could answer in a very simple way,the situation grew and blew out of proportion. Even when I was accused of telling someone they were wrong, I clearly explained myself of what I have read and asked again to simplify things but was met with childish antics, and now name calling.. so who is really rude? by the way that question was rhetorical.. rhetorical-employed for rhetorical effect; especially : asked merely for effect with no answer expected...I didn't want to wipe out whatever brain cells you have left...you can't say I never did anything for you.

As for poking fun at someone's favorite character, it is not my fault that in the story he was written in that the outcome was what it was... and before you start typing while humming your own theme song due to you being delusional that you are somehow the resident "hero"...try and assess the situation first...

Pancho the difference is your not "cooling down" your being an internet troll. You know there is no issue where colossus wins. But you no idea rather 3b was literally saying he wins or was just exclaiming his love of the character. You are just sitting back being a very rude troll who just keeps poking fun at another persons favorite character just for the sake of being rude. The only reason you want someone to say he loses is to rub it in to 3B cuz you clearly get some sick jollys from that. Pretty sad you ask me. But then again...no one did ask me

Seeing that everyone is avoiding my question, I will just assume that the issue where colossus wins does not exist. as for me cooling down, I honestly don't know how to show that I am relaxed and still calm even with the provocations that was shown today.

Why don't you just take Therapist's advice and cool it! He is just saying these things to help you and not get you in trouble for flaming, and you are the only one humiliating yourself by acting so childish. I think it would be best to just stop the whole thing, and just too let you know, 3B is in no way childish at all, he is actually one of the nicest people on here (granted, everyone is nice). Just cool it before things get out of hand, that's my advice.

I am chill....I was asking if there was another book...a simple "no" would have sufficed. how am I mean? because I am pointing out that colossus lost... is this not true?this could have been over so long ago if someone would have just said "no, the avx book does not exist" or "yes, here is the issue number and name of the book" . ...by the way I don't care about who you know and how long youve known them...if you really wanted to calm things down you would have just informed me that there is no avx book out there as of the moment where colossus ends up winning. so before this goes any further... I am going to spell this out, "Is there an A v X book where Colossus wins?" a simple "NO" or "YES, with a title of the issue and issue number" would be much appreciated. So please before you get yourself in another debate where you end up humiliating yourself, try to take your own advice and chill.

I am relaxed...I wasn't even trying to post my opinion, I was merely asking if there was another book that I have not read...because it is a fact that the avx book that I read, was the one where colossus folds like a cheap suit and losses to rulk. so unless there is no "avx" book out there in circulation where colossus wins a match...I will base my opinion on the fact that colossus lost the match.
Dude freakin chill. I mean if 3B is acting childish then you are acting just as if not MORE childish for stooping down to what you call "childish" level. Just cut it out your internet fanboy tough guy act gets old and annoying you really need to chill because no mater how much you bash Colossus, Marvel, or AvX you still admitted to reading it. Stop being a pompous hypocrite. Yeah I talk trash on Colossus but that is because I have known 3B for a VERY long time and I have even told him I am just giving him a hard time. Your just being mean

I am relaxed...I wasn't even trying to post my opinion, I was merely asking if there was another book that I have not read...because it is a fact that the avx book that I read, was the one where colossus folds like a cheap suit and losses to rulk. so unless there is no "avx" book out there in circulation where colossus wins a match...I will base my opinion on the fact that colossus lost the match.

COLOSUSS IS A LOSER

Is what I was trying to say

Relax, it's just a discussion. Everone has their own opinion.

I think this is what you meant to say!

Well seeing as your reaction is similar as a 4 year old...which I guess also answers my question about another "avx" book out there where colossus is triumphant at the end of battle... there is nothing left for me to do but agree... colossus does win... he wins the biggest loser award.

COLOSSUS WINS

I never said you were wrong...I asked if there was another issue where colossus won... whatever you want to call it he still lost to rulk..whether he wussed out or tried to be noble..he LOST.In that match up you could even say that juggernaut won but colossus lost...I don't really care as to why end result is that colossus lost, if he threw the fight or not, Im just wondering if there is another fight out there in which colossus WON. so if there is another avx book out there floating around where colossus did not end up as a door mat for Rulk, I would like to know.

It is no accident that I kept repeating that "colossus lost"...I just want to make it as clear as crystal that in the book that I read, colossus lost.

I said that because I felt like it, and as for the actual story maybe you should read it again because he didn't wuss out, he sacrificed the fight to save Utopia from collapsing and killing his fellow mutants...so please don't tell me I'm wrong when you clearly misread it.
I knew what you were saying, just an opinion, I guess he didn't read the whole post.

I said that because I felt like it, and as for the actual story maybe you should read it again because he didn't wuss out, he sacrificed the fight to save Utopia from collapsing and killing his fellow mutants...so please don't tell me I'm wrong when you clearly misread it.

Example? I wasn't giving an example...I just read here that colossus won..I was not aware of that... because when I read the comic, juggernaut entity was winning then colussus wussed out and got owned, so unless there is another book out there saying that colossus won, I would just like to be informed.

I understand that the character can be combined with anyone... I know that they can combine anyone they want. If they found a way to combine batman and wolverine, everything else is fair game...but the matter at hand is not whether they can combine characters, its if they should... seeing as your reaction to the whole colossus combining with juggernaut is negative,I rest my case.



Also in which book did this occur? Was there another book?The one that I read was he got his a$$ handed to him by rulk.
What kind of exampe is that? Rulk beats everyone.

I understand that the character can be combined with anyone... I know that they can combine anyone they want. If they found a way to combine batman and wolverine, everything else is fair game...but the matter at hand is not whether they can combine characters, its if they should... seeing as your reaction to the whole colossus combining with juggernaut is negative,I rest my case.



Also in which book did this occur? Was there another book?The one that I read was he got his a$$ handed to him by rulk.