WAKE UP MARVEL!!!!
WAKE UP MARVEL!!!!
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Off TopicI simply do not understand what is going on over at the Marvel camp....I mean, are they purposely trying to sink their own ship?? It seems that they have totally lost touch with their comic fans and just stop giving a hoot about making good books.To wit:
They have so many stupid versions going on that it is just getting impossible to follow....DC did the same thing before with the multiple Earths and I think its safe to say that it all that it produced was multiple headaches. The only explanation that I can come up with is that Marvel is just too cocky or too stupid to figure out that nine versions of wolverine is just not the answer.
Also what were they smoking when they decided to make spider-man afro/mexican???? Are they that LAZY and UNTALENTED to create a NEW character that would appeal to millions?Instead someone decided that it would be a fantastic idea of handing down a well known character and changing his race to appease two of their demographics?
Lastly the X-men....Has anyone else noticed that X books have become so cheesy and predictable as of late? "Schism" promised to bring such intense drama to our fave mutants with talks of intense twists and a roller coaster ride of emotions...Sadly all it was just a reason to give Wolverine a reason to run a school. The writers didn't even try! I mean if you really look at it, the reason the entire mutant race was split in two was because Cyclops and Logan wanted to prove that Jean loved one more than the other. This leads to the story being sooo predictable, because I can guarantee anyone out there that when Jean comes back from this whole Avengers vs X-men thing she will , without a shadow of a doubt, be with wolverine. Oh and one more thing...why is there an abundance of female mutants??? Has anyone noticed this??It seems that every month theres a new prepubescent girl discovering that she has an x gene...what is this all about?
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...Oh and btw u r totes outta my fav 5
Im delusional but your the one who throws a tantrum whenever anyone else is right.... I CALL POPPYCOCK!
But remember like jes13rz said why can't we all just get along
Im delusional but your the one who throws a tantrum whenever anyone else is right.... I CALL POPPYCOCK!
....I suuuure would like it if next time you just exclaimed something like...Poppycock or something whimsically generic refined smart Id find it to be your best post like...EVAR! lol....Or completely break the character you are going with like no more sidebar thesaurus but be like OMG LOL u thk u have bested me cheyah right u need 2 like totally chillax n chk urself b4 u rek urself ....a man can dream
again I fail to see the logic of your reasoning...I guess it goes well with the massive ego... did you not just say I had a huge problem with race? how is that not trying to guess what another person was thinking?but of course you with all your self proclaimed glory and asinine reasons would only come up with a statement.
I'm not surprised you failed to see my reasoning.
ANNNNNNYWHO on topic to all those who have not sworn GI Joe Arishakage style vendetta on me. I think no matter what we would never be happy. No matter what they produced some group or some people would hate it. If Fury was never turned black wed have groups complaining about racism. Jubilee turned Vamp there would be people pissing and moaning that its boring cuz everything stays the same. If there was never a RULK people would throw piss fits that Hulks legacy needs expansion. Sadly we are the group who hates what we are currently getting and sadly for us what we are getting now seems to be whats going to stick
P.S Pancho buddy try typing s u c k s (all together as I know sometimes you have problems getting stuff) in and see what the filters change it too. Easy enough to figure out if we just stay calm and don't fly off the handle. It was a filter to keep people from saying things like "hey this custom s u c k s"
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thanks for welcoming me.
The reason I brought up Caps movie was because you pointed out Furys movie like it was some end all beat all point where cap has had his cartoons and a movie. Heck Howard the duck, Fantastic four, and Punisher all had movies while we are at it. Of course there was also the Incredible hulk had a tv series as well
Same can be said for anything my friend. The "perceived angry comic nerd" is a major factor of why comics had so many problems breaking in to the main stream to begin with. Also the few "comic" fans that are left of us won't make them change their mind by us boycotting, that will just push them further to push the product for the masses. Heck check my post you will see that I even said I HATE what comic con has become but at the same time I realize that boycotting won't make them stop. It will just make me miss the characters I enjoy.
You'll see race is a VERY big issue to pancho here and your right. No matter what anyone says, does or thinks Marvel will continue to rake in money by the truckloads. Comics as we knew them are dead and yet they are just as profitable if not more then ever. Seems you were right when you said Marvel already woke up.
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Cap had a TV movie as well. My assessment, as you are having such a hard time figuring out was WHY WOULD THEY CHOOSE NICK FURY OVER ANOTHER CHARACTER TO TURN BLACK. I don't think Marvel nor any other major company give a cats meow about other peoples opinions of honor/creativity when the profit speaks for itself and at the end of the day the profit is most all companies bottom line.
wait a minute, Thor was black??
The popularity of the three was just as same as fury, they only made a name for themselves when the movies came out. there were even rumors that will smith was suppose to play captain america. What im trying to say is that it was unnecessary. It goes back to my point of creating original characters.changing race is just not my cup of tea.as for RISK/REWARD assessment, they could have easily come up with those excuses for cap/iron-man/thor. if anything I BELIEVE that fury was changed so that the avengers could have a little bit of mixture, its like what happened with the jla...they added cyborg so that its not an all "white" team.
...You really think that fury was as popular as those three? EVen pre movies he wasn't but I suppose with some people opinion>fact. But I was just explaining why Fury was chosen over cap or iron man. Not why ANYONE was chosen. That is likely the same reason John Stewart was added to JLU over Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner. Even though thats not what I was talking about when I gave you the risk vs reward assessment
I get that, but nick fury was also known to be white.I guess what im trying to say is that why did they do that? why pick fury? not cap?thor? or iron man?yes, I get that they are making great movies, but how long do you really think this is going to last? teenage mutant ninja turtles was big in the 90's...now theyre just a memory. I get big industries...I know that "profit" is what makes the wheels turn. Im just asking them to not forget what made them big in the first place.
Well I was not in the board room when the decision came down the pipe to turn Nick Black but from a simple business view it makes sense to turn Nick black. Its called risk vs reward. You RISK that by turning a character black (or any new/different race) that it can be a complete and utter failure of colossal proportion thus you don't take such a risk on a flagship character like Iron Man, Captain America, or Thor (can you imagine if Thor was black? remember the heimdell fiasco?) but the REWARD is this race change making the character more popular thus bringing you more money. To maximize your reward you have to use a character who isn't just some no name obscure character like Rtphoid Mary or Armadillo, you have to choose a character who already had some pull & popularity that will get people talking like "Whoa nick fury is black?" "Black Panther is white?" "Daredevil is mexican?" "Dr. Strange is Cambodian?" so you draw attention to your new potential money maker. Nick Fury fits this criteria very very well
Another potential reason is possibly that if it was met with absurd backlash then being Nick Fury they could turn him back White and write it up as LMD, disguise, or any number of things
I get that, but nick fury was also known to be white.I guess what im trying to say is that why did they do that? why pick fury? not cap?thor? or iron man?yes, I get that they are making great movies, but how long do you really think this is going to last? teenage mutant ninja turtles was big in the 90's...now theyre just a memory. I get big industries...I know that "profit" is what makes the wheels turn. Im just asking them to not forget what made them big in the first place.
Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't Ultimate Nick Fury been Black since the beginning? So that's not really Changing his race seeing as he isn't the same as the 616 counterpart (who is still white as far as I know). I think the reason they may have did it was because to most people Nick Fury IS the director of shield just randomly having someone else (except possibly Gabe Jones) would be kind of annoying. Reports show most people, especially casual fans, LOVE black Nick Fury AKA Samual Jacksons Nick Fury and the character has gained them a large sum of money.
Gotta agree with Jes. When the movies are making them Millions (if not billions) then they can keep printing whatever hey like. Truth be told a very large number of people who went to see Avengers have never picked up a comic book in their life. They just know these characters because they are pop culture icons, their films, their TV shows, and other marketing. They don't too much have to worry about comic sales as hardcore fans will have no choice, kids will buy anything and everything, and as DCs sales have shown us bringing in new casual fans can be an amazing untapped money making scheme. DC made their brand sell better by making it more accessible to the drones and mindless masses. Nintendo did the same thing with its Wii gaming system now Marvel will tap those pop culture junkies by bringing in hoards using their movies.
I know what you mean Sephiroth, for me it feels that I'm just waking up from a dream and the entire world has changed...
The Walking Dead
The Boys
Uncanny X-force
Daredevil
Venom
Secret Avengers
and thats all I have been getting every month but it all really depends on what you are in too. If you like X related stuff then I would also suggest X-men Legacy, Wolverine and the X-men, & Uncanny X-force. If you go any questions concerning different titles feel free to PM me I read over 100 titles a month ...sometimes around that many in one week
But personally I love Marvel but really don't feel like debating everything I seen I disagreed with ...lotsa post so OFF TO OPTIMISM!!!!!!